12 months ago we flew from Russia to the Netherlands (she entered on a 90 days Schengen visa). . Hi Shamim, you cannot change your tourist visa into a work visa while in the country. Best of luck to you! Duration Is there a way for them to pardon this? Im from the US and my time in the Shenghen zone ends January 5. So as far as I know and everything Ive read including EU rules I did NOT overstayed by staying 90 days after my residence permit expired, (I have EU oficial sources that confirms this). I would have overstayed my visa by 31 days on the date of my departure. I have all the paper that the city hall sent while waiting. I think if you are going there for business, your company needs to get you a multi-entry visa for 90 days or more. I have written about this issue on my Top Questions about Schengen Visa Overstay under Situation E. The validity of your visa has nothing to do with your allowed days. After Coronavirus I would love to visit Europe and my boyfriend, but I dont know if Im banned, If I have to pay a fine or if waiting 18 months to go would be enough. Im missing something in this overstay rule Im so confused! Thanks for commenting about your issue. I have a blog post on this here: http://www.everyoneinbetween.com/2018/07/determine-schengen-visa-validity-vs-days/. In fact, I have a calculator right here you can use for free. Then you only have 90 days in all of these countries combined. But when you fly direct Greece Denmark, you do not exit Schengen or go through passport control anywhere. I am in Croatia now, coincidentally! The options I can afford right now are:1) Fly out of Tegel to NYC as planned- Risks as outlined above. So the multiple-entry visa allows its holder to go in and out of the Schengen country as pleased. Ive heard its an easier exit. I hope you have a few minutes to help me with a few questions I have for you. Americans do get a lot more leniency (I know this sounds prejudice, but it is true) if they overstay by a couple days. Most eVisas are endorsed inside a little while, despite the fact that candidates ought to permit as long as 7 days. Usually, you would have to apply for a tourist visa if youre non-US/CA/AUS/NZ, but usually student visas (type D) are able to travel an extra 3 months as a tourist (as long as they get a Schengen exit stamp and travel to a non-schengen country before re-entering). There are fines and entry bans. Was Germany your 1st point of Schengen entry where you got stamped? She will be trying to get back into Portugal after using up all of her 90 days, mostly because she wants to try and get her visa application meeting undertaken. You most likely have been added to the Schengen Information System (SIS), and when you apply for a new Schengen visa, there is a chance you will get denied the visa. Hello there! However, according to British Embassy sources, this grace period is no longer valid. Hey Cliff! When I leave I will be two weeks over the ninety days. Hi, Im an american citizen who has lived in spain legally in and out for about 4 years as a student. Then I can get a student visa and later have a better chance at landing a job here. I am Brazilian I now want to move to Italy to be with my new boyfriend. The problem is there is nothing official. Will I every be able to fly to the Netherlands direct? I have sent a reply email to the officer explaining my situation with the flight and i attached the original flight ticket but it gives me no hope to know that Ive broken the law here and it can jeopardize things for me from now:(. Hello there! The question is: can I go to Bulgaria or another non schengen area country in E.U? I know the time that I was in Spain on my residency doesnt count towards the tourist time. There dont seem to be any direct flights from Lisbon to Croatia without layovers in a Schengen airport). Of course there is no border control to catch this but usually people do not live in a country as a tourist for 6 monthsthey usually try to work. Im currently in my last month of my doctorate in Iceland, and Im originally from the US (been living in Iceland on a student visa for almost three years). Long story short, Im Indonesian, I came to Belgium with au pair visa for one year, in may 2016. So if they deny your visa due to this reason, you will have to appeal and explain your case. Re: Corona virus and overstaying on Schengen visa. Already travelled- Clearly, I was ignorant about the system. According to my calculator, you overstayed by 25 days. This could be brought up in an interview. I suggest you get lawyers involved, unfortunately. You need to provide all your paperwork for your return flights, so if they see the visa and the flight dates dont match up, then they will make a decision in letting you in or not. Thanks in advance, your site has a lot of helpful info, but I couldnt quite find an answer. Its really weird they dont have stricter rules with all the talk about immigration there . I honestly would call the Montenegrin Visa Regime for India and ask them about entering with the U.S. visa. VBJ has written 3656 posts on Vagabond Journey. But I am planning to spend just 3 weeks in Nigeria and come back by November 23rd 2019. Not to scare you, of course, but those are all very real possibilities and the worst penalties. If your visa has expiredthis means you have no right to be in the country. I would try re-applying anyway and just see what happens. I did not enter Europe as a tourist before my student visa. Best of luck! My boyfriend and I are trying to figure out the details of that currently. (See Section 222(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (I.N.A.)) Do I will face any problem when I am going back ? Sweden is very strict on visas and will most likely ask him to leave if he does not leave himself first. You can find more information here: https://ind.nl/en/family/Pages/Spouse-or-partner.aspx, Hi, can you help me please, I need an answer as I cant make any plans, my daughter got her schengen single entry for 10 days she will travel to paris on the 25th of January and then to Barcelona and back to paris to meet us there on 31st of January till the 3Rd of February, she will not use train I booked her flights, but they assured that they will not let her enter paris again as she got single entry but as I understand in case she didnt go out the schengen area she is fine . Hello, Unfortunately, your wife doesnt really have authority to tell the immigration board when she will or will not leave she has no authority to do so, regardless of if the kids are in school (remember, they are there illegally as well). I think? Visa validity & visa days are very different https://www.everyoneinbetween.com/2018/07/determine-schengen-visa-validity-vs-days/. Background info: I accidentally overstayed last year and was caught when I tried to fly from Germany to Vienna so I was sent back to my country from Germany (no fine, just filled up a paper and got some kind words to stop crying). I think you should be okay due to your citizenship and since you are on your way out of Schengen and it was only a couple days. Thank you! On the surface it seems the same 90 day rule is in effect, but Ive heard conflicting stories as to whether or not is as simple as 90 days on/ 90 days off. Im from Egypt and i had last year a schengen Visa with duration of stay of a month within the validity visa which is 3 months. However, I dont think you can technically re-enter Schengen due to you having exited without a visa processing, and 6 days left on your Schengen visa. My advice for you is to leave the country as soon as possible and research methods of securing proper visas and apply outside of Spain. now i am married and have kids. You cannot stay longer than your visa, so saying you have no option is basically not minding the consequences of never being let back into Europe in the future if they catch you. I want to stay for 20 days. What a SITUATION, right? Thanks, Hey Marc! If you enter back into UK, dont go by plane. Whether you get caught or not really depends on the border control agent and if they are familiar with the extension rules and Schengen law. You can live in Spain while your application is being process but also while you appeal the rejection of that application and while that appeal is being processed, she said., Q&A: Everything you need to know about residency in Spain post-Brexit. I had arrived to Barcelona on 1/11/19 and I went to Andorra 4/5/2019-4/07/19 and got stamped for all crossings. As regards to your second question overstaying in Romania wouldnt have any affect on if you can come and go from Schengen. So when you apply, it should be for a work visa with all the information of the company that is sponsoring you. Thanks for your question. I asked him if I wanted to go back to Europe, I could have problems and he said no. Hopefully u can give me some advise. If they deny you due to lack of proof for overstaying, there is not much you can do since the visa was overstayed willingly for such a long time. I COMPLETELY overlooked the fact that everything is now computerized and that they could scan my new passport and see all the data from my old passportand see that Ive overstayed. now its over (2011 2016) Thanks a lot for your prompt response. So if you fly to another Schengen country from Greece, your passport wont be checked by border police. Hi Lindsey, Hope this helps! As I had my visa by invitation. My French partner and I want to get married before that (in Denmark as its a hell of a lot less paper work). If they fine you for overstaying your visa, then so be it. They will most likely slide it through a scanner, and then flip through the pages to find your entrance stamp and see where youve been. As long as you always exited from Spain and flew back into Spain, that would not start your tourist visa. On trying to return to the country, she was denied entry. Hey Maggie! Best of luck! The Spanish embassy then cancelled my application saying the background check had taken too long, and refused my second application although I had all of the correct documents. Im feeling okay about my exit, but still definitely a little nervous. Starting from July 08, 2018 within my current visa I stayed in total for 43 days. and when it is scanned is the border official able to see where you have been? Im a Canadian, who has overstayed my time in Spain by 9 months( I was in neighboring islands and portugal for the last 6 months). Comment: Hello, I travel to EU a lot with my wife she is Australian , am Moroccan citizen and living in united Arab emirates i have many visa from EU from different country in EU have got my last visa for 90 days available from 20th June 2016 until / 1st June 2017 from embassy of France in Dubai So they may have to fly back to the us so as to have some documents notarized and autentificasted back in the us THEY HAVE overstayed their initial 90 Days, but put in a residency application, started proceedings, and were already seen by the PT immigration ocfficials twice. My question is is it okay for me to flying back to my country from Brussels again ( since I arrived in Brussels before) ? It does help but I think where you are wrong (respectfully). i advice everyone please dont do these kind of stupid mistakes like we done. Any advice would be much appreciated. Letter from Laura about overstaying visa in Spain: I do not have a question as such, just wanted to briefly tell you my experience of overstaying. You could exit through Spain, but that doesnt mean you wouldnt be caught. My attorney said not to worry about it, stay and if I get caught overstaying I can say Im getting ready to recieve nationality. Millions of people travel to Europe each year, whether it be on business, curiosity, adventure, rebellion or leisure; we all make it there at one point in our lives. Odds are they will deport you. If you say you moved to Sweden, that means you have a Swedish residence visa. However, they require some information from you first, and will require a written application to the state police. Do you have any tips about leaving or reentering on the sly? In the middle of my au pair time, i leave my host family because they didnt respect me, make me overworked without paying. Your case is not an emergency situation as youre just going to hang out. Different Schengen countries have different fines. thank you so much. And I know this is not your focus (nor the focus of this blog post) but do you know if the opposite is true for Europeans with the ESTA visiting the USA. I replied to your private email in response! Thanks Lindsey, for your fast reply, ok may I have another question since I was on c visa its 90/180 days and thats why I was overstay anyway when I would apply for a national D visa 180/365 do they count the 365 days and the 180 days just for the D type or both c and d i hope you understand what I mean but since I was in Poland overstay anyway if they count my visa c time inside the new day visa it would be act actual useless or they totally different type of days they wont count both as one, As a Schengen D visa holder, you will be entitled to stay in the territory of Poland throughout the entire period of the Visa validity and move within the territory of other states of Schengen zone, but not for more than three months within a 180-day period. Youre correct that since 91, U.S citizens are allowed to enter Poland for any 90 days period without visa (with doing a visa-run to renew the 90 days). It is your responsibility to abide by the laws of the countries you are visiting. . The family court procedure is now over, And I am now somewhat illegal . Type :C Im also not sure about my situation in Germany. Ill have spent the entire 90 days in Italy. No check for whatever reason. Carry with you at all times, a uk border agency inspects your passport when you return( at Calais ) if uk border agency asks you tell them , you left the uk for a day trip.no one will know when you leave the uk and enter France . I am neither EU nor US/Canada citizen and I normally need a Schengen visa to travel for tourism purposes. He wont be facing jail time for overstaying (of course, if he is caught working illegally, this is a different story). Hey Gallen! there are many options to choose like study applicant or marriage but also i point to choose is other purpose. I was really surprised. Hope you are well. It tends to be longer for those who overstay the legal period by a significant amount. Because sometimes they do not give a full 90 days (it can be as low as 10!) Again, her original 90 day free tourist visa expires today Oct. 10th. What is the maximum fine in Spain? The obvious advice however is that if youre not planning on applying for residency in Spain, you should book your flight out long before the end of your 90-day stay, to give yourself some leeway in case your flight is cancelled. i have the below question: As for me, I was previously a long-term resident in Germany so I thought I would be fine on my German permanent residency visa. Now you need one even if you wanna take a day trip to our neighbors up North. Just make sure you do not go over 90 days again! Please note that: The date of entry is considered the first day of stay. He needs to stay out of Schengen for 90 days completely if he used up all his days. So entering one and leaving another in a tip if you wind up in this issue. My story ended with me eventually getting a residence permit in Sweden based off my boyfriends citizenship. I believed them, so I went to Geneva for 7 times this year (average staying 20 days) the problem happened in July this year. I dont have any plans as of yet to travel back to America, but I also dont have any plans to travel outside the Schengen area either. Why would this way be worse than flying directly out of Athens? they say, the grund law of Germany proteces the freedom of marriage. Even though traveling around Schengen Zone means there are no border control, I still would be careful, or at least check with your local immigration office (anonymously!) Just for those who are in Cheryls situation as well, my reply was simply that as long as her son does not enter back into Schengen zone once he leaves, there would be no risk for penalty. Do you have a layover in another Schengen country? If the overstay are few days so might be visa officer understand and its approx 40 -45 days that is the main concern just last question if i get any good prof from Italy that my daughter was ill and is there any chance to get visas ??? Thank you. Hey Lindsey, its amazing what you are doing! I am unsure of how this affects my legal status in other schengen countries. So thats what I did, changed my ticket and took the next flight to JFK. He didnt take me anywhere or make me sign anything. Ive read on this site that you dont know of people being denied re-entry on a tourist visa but that doesnt mean those cases have not occurred. In your situation, you really needed to get permission to stay WHILE your daughter was sick, not after when the law had been broken. Best of luck! Hi Lindsey, how are you? Usually when applications are pending, they can stay within the country without penalty (but no working or anything). Hello, Lindsey, Looks like I am familiar with Jay from the US, I am a MSc student, and had a module in Greece for 22 days (my applicaiton documents showed that but Greece only gave me 20 days duration, that was what I did not notice), When I left Greece, the police gave me a 600 euro fine ticket,what I heard is 60, and I did not see the ticket clearly for I have to catch the plane), but no black stamp on my passport. If you have stayed our 90 day, you should be legally fine to enter. My story: To apply for a Montenegran visa, here is their official website with information: https://www.visit-montenegro.com/tourism/visas-and-montenegro-embassy/, Thanks again, on the same site u referred, I found the below document which gives detail in article 5 I had a problem last year, I accidentally overstayed in germany 4 days (with a visa student) because my flight was changed. You need to apply for a new visa in order to have the right to travel to other countries. I just returned home (NYC) after mistakenly (I think) overstaying for ~1.5 months. I love that name . Flying out of GVA to Toronto through London (one-way ticket) on Sunday. She waited for it in Europe even though she had to do it in our home country because as a marriage we didnt wanted to be separated and we were confident that after a few months, the decision would have been positive. Good question! Hey Lei! I have C-type business multi-entry visa valid from July 3, 2018 until January 2, 2019 with duration of stay 60 days. I didnt hear him clearly as he was walking away, but I believe he said no fine today, and he said maybe and something about maybe having to show documents. Will it make me look less suspicious when re-entering Madrid? the lines were demonstrated over a year ago with the previous question about how to stay longer. Hi Nalini! Hi Lindsey, Should I explain my story? I entered schengen through the country that delivered me the visa and exit through another schengen country. CIF G93354348, 2021 Citizens Advice Bureau Spain | All Right Reserved, Claiming Unemployment Benefit But Would Like To Set Up As Self Employed, 200 Euros For Low-income And Low Net Worth Individuals, Croatia Joins The Euro And Schengen Areas. The most important part is the time allowed. Dont worry nothing is going to happen to you now You might be questioned in the future because they keep records that you had overstayed, but since you paid the fine, then the officer was correct in saying the chapter is closed. You can go ahead and apply for new visas just make sure you are very clear and organized about your listed travel plans on the visa application and when entering Europe in the future. Depending on what country it is, you have to submit a lot of paperwork months in advance which would have you overstay your 90-day tourist visa again. I have been reading about Schengen for a while now and am still a bit confused. I also noticed there is not even an exit stamp on my passport. Hi Lindsey, I just wanted to make one correction, the SIS which is the system that flags passports doesnt record every time a visa free individual leaves or enters the schengen, so they have to actually page through your passport to get you That being said, individual schengen countries can record this but there is currently no system in place for sharing this information among themselves. We found a different lawyer to help me with the residence application process, this time applying for residence as family member of an EU citizen. In addition we are also planning to get married in sweden before the visa expired and after I go back to the Philippines from Svalbard to process the permanent residency permit after getting maried i Sweden Anyone who overstays their visa might have a problem. Dear lindsey Hi Stef! To cross country out from schengen which has no visa needed and dont comeback yet to my home country before my 90 days visa expired. We were planning on renting a car and going to several of the non Schengen countries like Montenegro, Albania, Croatia, etc. I just want to tell you, that we solved the Problem already! Unfortunately, if they have given him a warning to leave within 3 months, and he did not follow those instructions, he will most likely have a difficult time getting a new work permit in another European country. Thanks for stopping by with your question. Given my experience Id recommend a direct flight from Spain to the US for US passport holders. Thank you so much in advance, I really appreciate all the information you give to us. He is not entitled to building a life in Sweden without a visa. Well, if you entered on your Canadian, and left on your Canadian, that means you overstayed on your Canadian tourist visa. to see if you are allowed to travel around Schengen freely while waiting for the visa. I hope you are feeling good now. When Spain went into full lockdown in March 2020 and it allowed thousands of third-country nationals who were unable to return home due to international travel bans to remain in Spain, it did force those who spent more than 183 days in Spain to become fiscal residents and to start paying taxes here. . So my suggestion is to get a direct flight from Poland > U.S./non-Schengen country, and if Polish border police stop you, just say you are under the bilateral and make sure you have proof of exit/entrance to a non-schengen country every 90 days. Reading this was helpful! The last thing is, I have Turkish pass. My visa is expiring April 1, 2018, but i would like to remain in Spain and continue traveling throughout the Schengen until june. questions: I will not be returning to the Schengen area until our wedding which will be in Italy in July 2019. The past 2 summers I have gone back to America to renew my student visa. However, on the visa application forms it might ask your flight details from previous trips or dates. Related services Fixed-fee legal services (1) Immigration Where do I see immigration, in Italy or Amsterdam? I realize that this is probably a repeat question but am stressing so have to ask! Besides, I am not willing to pay the fine which is ridiculous(lets say 300 or more) as I dont have that amount of money. My last fly in was sometime in May and I havent left since then as I have been struggling with the student visa application since then. Hey Lindsay, I left a comment on another post, but this one is a little more detailed so if you can answer this one, it would be so helpful! But I still give the passport back without a stamp, when I realized I returned and asked him to put the stamp because i dont wanted to have problems and it will be proof that I had left the territory. I have done some Research in Internet. Hey Manoj, this could definitely affect your student visa. Thanks for writing in. Im assuming you were on a 6-month student visa? The new data shows that support in favour of leaving the EU dropped in every member state. Do you have any insight? I then flew to Croatia on June 26th and stayed there until July 10th when I took a ferry to Italy. I had advice on that too! During this time he has a new passport from Consulat. Thanks in advance! Ive applied for a job and they are just starting to look into getting me a work permit. The breakdown revealed there was an 11.8 percentage point drop in Finland between the two surveys, whilst Slovenia saw a 10 percentage point drop, 8.8 in Austria, and 8.6 in Portugal. However, after not going through customs when entering Spain, I realized something was wrong. Or is it best to apply from home to avoid any further confusion regarding my overstay? If you overstay 90 days in the EU, you risk deportation. For your question, if they never said anything to you, I am sure youll be fine. So no, I dont think you can come back to stay in France (or anywhere in Schengen) if you get married. Hi! Yes, I gave Sally a pass on that, Norma, figuring she just loves being in Europe so much she can no longer think clearly :-). She was brought to the back room and told that paperwork would be sent to her regarding the situation. You should contact the German embassy or consulate in your city and ask about this. I didnt consider the expiry date when booking a flight, because it was my last day of work I didnt think I would have to pack up and leave that day. Hey Lindsey! What do you think? Hey Scott! It was for 22 days. Heres a link: https://www.eda.admin.ch/countries/georgia/en/home/visa-&-entry-to-switzerland/visa--entry-to-switzerland-and-residency/visas/work-visa.html. So you need to apply for a separate visa to enter Montenegro. 1. Therefore, Portugal can issue you the fine if they catch this error in your stay. Thanks for sharing! They could deny him a tourist or a work visa. However, if you are leaving France (and Schengen), it is way better to be on the way out of the country (as opposed to being caught by police while still living in the country). Whats more than likely going to happen? It is not worth the stress and things are changing. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! I received a business visa in the Czech Republic for 1 year. The flight has a layover in Norway. I am now planning to stay in the Netherlands for the next 6 months(my residence permit from Italy is valid till mid of next year). In September I left Switzerland and made a stop at the airport in Frankfurt (Germany) the agent interrogated me and asked for my stay permit, since he had noticed that I stayed for 6 months. Just want to update and say thank you for ur suggestions before. Luckily they immigration allow us to continue the process, in middle march, police come to our home and checked everything plus give us appointments for interviews on April, after interviews in April they told us to wait for result, after wait for another 2 months, they result came on 15 June and state they rejected our marriage plan because of my visa things. Thanks! You need to stay out at least 90 days of Schengen for them not to get suspicious when you re-enter. Hey Elena! What is the possible outcome in this? 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