Harry, I partially agree with you here, however, youve negated the fact of what Ark Royal could bring to the party. Withdrawing the Ark in 79 would only have further convinced them of our North Atlantic/NATO centric pivot. Sailors and military personnel in the Falklands saluted the last Royal Navy ship damaged in the 1982 conflict. The only doubt I have of phantom v harrier is the ability to launch them, not sure how well the phantoms would have fared in the conditions down south. Wodehouse, DSO, RN) also joined the convoy from ' Force O ' at the same time. There was also one subsidiary beach, ' R '. Pacific Exporter (British, 6734 GRT, built 1928), Physical and mental fitness are at the heart of Royal Navy life. Not really. The F-4 was undoubtedly a more capable naval interceptor than the Sea Harrier. To what end? Around 0200A/6, the destroyers HMS Broke (Lt.Cdr. Of course, the small Gannet force would also have been terribly fragile. HMS Glamorgan was a County-class destroyer of the Royal Navy with a displacement of 5,440 tonnes. She was the first warship to be built in what would become the United States. For ' Y ' beach Stanhill, Buccaneers would also allow the potential for a strike on the Argentinian mainline, although very unlikely. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_naval_forces_in_the_Falklands_War Wilson scrapped the newer ship. As for Atlantic Conveyor, I can't see how this changes things enough so that she isn't sent. By 1978 Ark was incapable of making distilled water , needed for boilers and catapult launches , such were the state of her evaporators, she required the three RFAs that accompanied her to go alongside and RAS distilled water. From Sousse, departed ' Convoy B ' and ' Convoy C '. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Winchester Castle. W.G. Harper, RNR), HMS Hoy (T/Lt. The Argentinian junta invaded because they believed that Britain did not have the national and political will to liberate the islands, so the availability of Ark Royal would not have made a difference to their reasoning imo. They were escorted by the sloop HMS Deptford, cutters HMS Hartland, HMS Walney, corvettes HMS Rhododendron, HMS Violet and the motor launches HMS ML 480 and HMS ML 483. Ocean Wanderer, HMS "Berwick" anti submarine frigate. War is about making the most of what you have at theRead more . Island nation that depends on imported energy to keep the lights on. She would have needed another large refit which would have taken several years given her condition in 1979. HMS Largs, landing ships, landing craft and escorts were then ordered to proceed to Sousse. HMS Arc Royal at the Falklands I've been listening to Sharkey Ward's book "Sea Harrier over the Falklands" (interestingly self recorded by the author), and it has made me wonder if the While the Gannet would have literally saved lives, the carrier was to small to operate modern jets, hence why it only had 12 Phantom. 2,744 t, used as casualty ferries (hospital ships). L.S. Convoy KMF A 1 was to pass the Strait of Gibraltar around 0100A/6; it was made up of the (troop) transports; Discover the key services available to serving personnel and access the Defence Gateway, where you can contact a range of external organisations. H.R. The same can be said about the fighters on Ark Royal. Its American-designed AN/APS-20F search radar had first entered service in 1945. However, a new government reexamined the case and found that only shore-based aircraft was not sufficient to provide the defence needs of our global interests which were East of the Suez. However, another interesting fact was that breaking up of Ark Royal took until 1983. At 2214A/7, the made contact with their beacon submarine HMS P 221 (Lt. M.F.R. (1). But the Task Force still had gaping bind spots. C.L. Firth, RNVR), HMS Marigold (Lt. J.A.S. The need was the Gannet AEW. It had already had a reprieve and its time in-service date put forward. Cathay (British, 15225 GRT, built 1925), Leadership is an essential requirement at all levels throughout the Royal Navy. T.B. Ainslie, DSC, RN). St. Essylt, Ark Royal was .unreliable despite being not particularly old so the danger of system.failure would be high. The convoys would then be diverted into nine groups, these were; However one realty remained that governed everything. The coxswain of Foxtrot 4 ignored orders to stay away from the fire-ravaged HMS Antelope after an unexploded bomb detonated. Interestingly, a similar situation occured in 1976. Walt Whitman (American, 7176 GRT, built 1942), Even with just Harriers, that's a significant advantage. Aircraft. Ede, DSO, RN), HMS Stornoway (T/A/Lt.Cdr. If she had been retained I dont think she could have dealt with the South Atlantic without safety concerns for our men as she was very tired in 1979. The island surrendered shortly before noon without further fighting. Mark Twain (American, 7176 GRT, built 1942), McMullan, RNR) escorted by the M/S trawler HMS Horatio (T/Lt. Island nation that operates a just in time supply chain for just about everything. She was launched on 9 July 1964, and was delivered to the Royal Navy two years later.A twin launcher for the Seaslug anti-aircraft missile was fitted aft.At the start of the Falklands campaign, on 2 April 1982, Two weeks later on 14 May, she supported British special forces during the At the beginning of June, the task force having been reinforced with other ships, Before the missile impact, the ship executed a highspeed turn away from the missile, before the Exocet struck the port side adjacent to the hangar near the stern. Miller, DSC, RNR) and HMS Jonquil (Lt.Cdr. R.L. A memorial was subsequently erected to the lost crewmen on Berthas Beach which remains a popular site with British personnel stationed in the Falklands. The Buccaneer's buddy-tanking capability could also have been used to keep Phantoms on CAP longer. eagle was in far better condition and, as still goes on ships are not maintained as they are in the u.s in a state where reactivation is possible h.m.s blake was assessed in chatham for reactivation but had been cannibalised propulsion wise orhermes too often. The Royal Navy is a highly skilled multi-disciplinary team and together we protect the nation's interest. Trentham, RN), minesweepers HMS Brixham, HMS Bude, HMS Clacton, HMS Felixtowe, HMS Polruan (Lt.Cdr.(Retd.) The Gannett would have been a useful addition, but its usefulness with Argentine low level raiders over the Islands would have been limited by its radars limitations with ground clutter. Do not forget HMS Eagle, a newer ship than Ark Royal. C.R. A.T.G.C. 9228 Bay Avenue, North Beach, Md, J.H. The indication to the Argentineans was that we no longer wanted/had the will to defend the islands. D.E. When you need at least two on station, two on their way back and two getting ready to go, you have six aircraft constantly tied up at the least and thats only for one CAP station. The Americans concluded that even Nimitz-size ships would often have been out of limits. But six weeks is a very long time to keep just twelve Phantoms and their crews flying without any possibility of reinforcement or replacement. W.A. Repotting Lady Slipper Orchids, Moving slowly in open waters, she proved easy prey for Argentine aircraft. Ocean Rider, We are cursed by Governments who seem to ignore their first duty Defence of the Nation Hammond is a first class example of an idiot who with a wave of the hand stresses we only need an Army of 50,000 . With only three or four Gannets, a single accident or maintenence crisis would have had an outsized effect the Gannet force's operations. Arc Royal carried not only the Phantom (a much better Fleet Defence fighter than the Harrier), but also the Fairey Gannet AEW.3 airborne early warning aircraft. Around noon on 4 November 1942, the convoy was split up into two sections KMF A1 and KMF O1. Leedstown, Something needs to carry the Chinooks and Wessexes after all. They were escorted by the AA ship HMS Tynwald, escort destroyers HMS Cowdray, HMS Zetland, sloop HMS Enchantress, minesweepers HMS Algerine, HMS Hussar, HMS Speedwell, corvettes HMS Pentstemon, HMS Samphire, MS trawlers HMS Cava, HMS Othello and the motor launches HMS ML 273 and HMS ML 295. Peachey, RN), destroyer HMS Vansittart, sloop HMS Aberdeen and the frigates HMS Exe and HMS Swale. A.P. Topic: PeopleRemembrance Mary Slessor, X ', ' Y ' and ' Z ' beach. As Harry said, had history been different and the Ark survived into the 1980s, then (assuming it was available) it wouldnt have been as effective as the combined effect of Hermes and Invincible. 14 Buccaneer S2s, 12 Phantom FG1s, 4 Gannet AEW3, 1 Gannet COD4, 7 Sea king, and 2 Wessex helicopters. A.A. Martin, DSC, RD, RNR), HMS Rhyl (Cdr. H.N.A. In the unlikely event of the Ark royal being serviceable ,theres a fairly good chance that the Argentineans would have sunk her. Group VI, 1st division; Derbyshire, Letitia, Mooltan and Nieuw Zeeland. The landing ship Derwentdale was also part of this convoy. Menzies, RN), HMS Penelope (Capt. R.F.R. A few minutes later they stopped and the landings commenced. After the invasion there were wild celebrations, relieving the pressure on the junta. HMS Hermes, was converted to a helicopter carrier, and then to a vertical take-off and landing aircraft carrier suitable for the Harrier jump jets which were invaluable to military efforts during the Falklands War. W.R.K. Ameristar Council Bluffs Promotions, Gary Delaney Net Worth, Is Richard Cory A Real Person, Bus ireann Galway, Tracing Shadows Activity, Stfx Nursing Scholarships, Vaadi En Tamilselvi As for RAF Harriers, maybe, maybe not. Purse, DSC, RN), HMS Wheatland (Lt.Cdr. conquerors sister courageous was in the southern hemisphere at the outbreak, it never actually joined the task force. H.G. HMS Rhyl was a Rothesay-class or Type 12I anti-submarine frigate of the Royal Navy, launched by Lady Macmillan on 23 February 1959 and commissioned in October 1960. Its not as straightforward as many people make out. Tadorna (British, 1947 GRT, built 1928), There were also plans to sell the Australians the HMS Invincible, but after the Falklands war, and the government seeing the utility of this ship it was decided to cancel to sale. HMS Sheffield after the Exocet missile strike in May 1982 that killed 20 and injured 26 of its crew In a combat zone Andy had additional duties and was part of the ship's first-aid With them were also transports from convoy KMS A1. Ralph Carter A Raisin In The Sun, Indirizzo She was the fifth ship to proudly bear the name of the city and her loss sent shockwaves through Johns, RN), HMS Antelope (Lt.Cdr. The Admiralty had decided to make use of the expected confusion of the landings in North Africa to run two 'small' merchant ships with important cargo to Malta. Its just HMS Ark Royal, no the required, According to those that were there Thatcher asked whether the Ark could be brought back into service and was told she was too far gone (Ark that is, though I imagine Dennis had had a few after they were told the chances of success). The stability of our nation depends on the freedom of the seas. A. Stirling, RNR) and HMS Shiant (T/Lt. Of course, the loss of the Falklands led to the fall of the junta anyway, so it was really Britains liberation of the islands that paved the way for democracy to return to Argentina. Safeguarding the essential trade routes that Britain depends on for 95% of its economic activity. This is seen in the case of the Centaur class aircraft carrier HMS Hermes which did see successful action in the Falklands, and it could arguably be the case, that its very survival along with the HMS Invincible was the reason the War in the Falklands was victorious for the British. Hore-Lacy, RN), HMS Keren (A/Cdr. H.F. Nash, RN), destroyer HMS Vansittart (Lt.Cdr. Stewart, RNR) and the minesweepers HMS Acute (Lt.Cdr. Also part of the convoy were the landing ships Following Royal Navy service she was sunk as a target in 1985. Storey, RN) also departed Gibraltar to join the convoy. Tegelberg and I think you will find that the ship you saw in Chatham Dockyard was in fact the Maintenance Ship HMS Triumph ( Ex Aircraft Carrier ). Around 0535A/7, in position 3734'N, 0001'W, the attack transport USS Thomas Stone was torpedoed and damaged by an enemy aircraft. 1982-apr-22: recommissioned from disposal list: 1983-may: Deployment: On station off Falklands: 1983-jul: Aircraft: 829 Sq Wasp HAS.1 XT786 assigned as /441-FM by Jul 1983 to 7 Nov 1984: 1984-mar: Deployment: departed HMNB Portsmouth for 5 month Far East deployment, Final air wing being twelve F-4K Phantoms, fourteen Buccaneers, four Gannet AEW.3, a Gannet COD and eight helicopters for ASW and SAR. H.J. Grace, DSC, RD, RNR), gunboat HMS Aphis ( Lt.Cdr. D. Lampen, DSO, RN), HMS Alarm (T/Lt.Cdr. Ninja Arashi Mod Apk, A.W. Barstow, RN), HMS Verity, (Lt.Cdr. Jean Jadot (Belgian, 5859 GRT, built 1929), Take the helos off and you might get a few more Phantoms on and as the air threat is going to be the issue here and the Phantoms can also do ground attack, the Buccs may well lose a couple to get the fighter number up. G. Blessas). Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations and Mandatory Fun, https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/hms-eagle-in-the-falklands.447558/. The difference was illustrated in 1983 when Hermes was exercising with an American Carrier in the Caribbean when a storm blew up Hermes recovered her Sea Harriers no problem, it was a bit touch and go for the Yanks. They were escorted by the destroyers Brilliant, HMS Verity, M/S trawlers HMS Coriolanus, HMS Eday, HMS Inchmarnock, HMS Kerrera and the motor launches HMS ML 458, HMS ML 463, HMS ML 469, HMS ML 471 and HMS HDML 1128. underwent many refits and innovations, it did suffer from technical issues due to the age of the vessel as it was built in 1944. The lack of early warning for the task force was a real problem and Im not sure whether having phantoms instead would have made much difference. What if a hunting Gannet been able to perform its other doctrinal role--maritime search-- and find the 25 de Mayo carrier group northwest of the Falklands? Ensuring the security of home and international waters is central to the stability and prosperity of Britain and the world economy. Smaller carriers are especially susceptible to being tossed around in rough weather. Dempo (Dutch, 17024 GRT, built 1931), This is quite something and definitely would have been an effective deterrent. Edward Ruthledge (American, 7177 GRT, built 1942), Grubbie. Clarke, RN, flying the flag of Rear-Admiral C.H.J. It wasnt the capability which failed to deter it was the will to use it. This convoy was assembled off Oversay on 26 October 1942. What people need to remember when discussing these things is the wider image. AR being also capable of providing AEW via the Gannet gives the task force anywhere from 100-200 miles (about 10 or 15 minutes) warning about incoming raids. Comments may automatically be held for moderation by our team, they will be approved as soon as possible in accordance with our. N. Hunt, RNVR), HMS Eday (T/Lt. On the morning of the 4th may HMS Sheffield was at defence readiness, and one of 3 Type 42 The force for ' B Sector ' was made up of HMS Bulolo, HMS Keren and the Awatea, Cathay, Otranto, Sobieski, Strathnaver and Winchester Castle. They were escorted by the light cruiser HMS Jamaica, escort destroyers HMS Calpe (Lt.Cdr. The war needed to have been fought as long as the Argentinians held the Falklands. However, sadly the aircraft carriers which replaced her were not able to be equipped with traditional aircraft. Turner, RN) made contact with the force and the ships were guided to their positions for the landings. But I think the simple question is would we have been better of with just HMS Ark Royal, or as it was Illustrious and Hermes and personally Id say no. Connect with like-minded people and develop a peer-to-peer support network both online and at community centres. Convoy KMS A 1 was to pass the Strait of Gibraltar around 2345A/5; it was made up of the transports; On assembly the convoy was escorted by the escort carrier HMS Avenger (Cdr. Also air bombardments were carried out. R. de L. Brooke, DSC, RN) and HMS Wilton (Lt. A.P. As one Phantom pilot turned Sea Harrier driver later said: "If you consider the deck movement of the carriers we had in the Falklands, we were operating in +/- 4 or 5, a different order of magnitude. Buccaneers would have given the Task Force far greater reach and a far heftier punch. Ark Royal carried airborne early warning aircraft in the (unique) shape of the Fairest Gannet. The surrender of Linosa Island was accepted by HMS Nubian. At 2135A/7, the beacon submarine HMS P 45 (Lt. H.B. Could keeping HMS Ark Royal have prevented the Falklands War? Big pinches of salt need to be taken when he speaks. Lord Teynham, RN), HMS Velox (Lt. G.B. However, as a military aviator I completely sympathize with his annoyance with bad operations orders, micromanagement, wondering what higher ups are thinking and if they have any idea of your role or capabilities, withholding of information by those above, poor communication from your superiors and a lack of intelligence information. Contents 1 Operational Service 2 Commanding officers 3 References 4 Publications Operational The US Army's new penetration division which is 1 of Stealth/VLO technology advances in the US is based on a How did the Russian aircraft carrier/cruiser Kuznetsov Are penal units effective as a military force? N.A.F. Havildar, It could carry at least four with an additional four Sidewinders. Pugsley, DSO, RN), HMS Nubian (Cdr. Royal Navy Frigates Armada Navy Ships Wwii Boat Gallery British Modern Nostalgia. But in the Royal Marines and Royal Navys Amphibious Warfare community, the loss of the 30-metre-long craft, with four Marines and two Sailors, resonates to this day. Warwick Castle. Thirty-eight years ago, HMS Coventry sank during the Falklands War. It was May 21, 1982. T.E. Llangibby Castle (British, 11951 GRT, built 1929), By contrast, STOVL aircraft like the Sea Harrier are far more tolerant of pitching deck conditions, since they can land near the center of the ship, where the see-saw effect is the mildest. W.R.K. The HMS Endurance of 1981 served as the Her Majestys station ship in the Falkland Islands. Learn about the different types of accommodation available through the Royal Navy and find an option that meets your needs. A final bombardment was then carried out and also aircraft from North African air bases carried out attacks. Around 0800A/5, the minesweepers HMS Algerine (Lt.Cdr. Would have been interesting! A.F. Therefore its likely that it would have never have crossed the Airforce mind to deploy theirs on ships. Abel Smith, RN), destroyer HMS Clare (Lt.Cdr. Gannets would have eliminated the use of type 42s as radar picket, saving Coventry and Sheffield. D.P. The likelihood of retaining the territory would have been very low, and likely that the Argentines would have held back their plans. Community Hospital Eportal, The Tories had promised in their election to strengthen the forces. Our ability to overcome adverse conditions means were often the first to respond when disaster strikes. WebDeparted HMNB Portsmouth for 7.5 month group deployment (TG 317.6) to Australia and Far East, escorting HMS Tiger and in company with RFA Grey Rover, RFA Regent, RFA Tarbatness and RFA Tidepool. HMS Plymouth was a Royal Navy Rothesay -class frigate. i, d say not just the will, but and this is where my worries around comrade corbyn come in, the bravery and ambition to prepare beforehand for the likeliest source of future aggression. C.G.V. William Floyd, imo the Falklands war could have been avoided by clear statements about Britains willingness to defend the islands and sending some units very quickly south to show resolve. Eight motor torpedo boats and / or motor gun boats were also set to patrol in the area. With them were also transports from convoy KMS A1. Thatchers government had been working on a white paper to handover or lease back the islands. Letitia (British, 13595 GRT, built 1925), Falklands War. HMS Glamorgan was a County-class destroyer of the Royal Navy with a displacement of 5,440 tonnes. The ship was built by Vickers-Armstrongs in Newcastle Upon Tyne and named after the Welsh county of Glamorgan. The force for ' A Sector ' was made up of HMS Karanja and the Marnix van St. Aldegonde and Viceroy of India. L.A. Sayers, RNR), HMS Samphire (Lt.Cdr. 04 April 2022 Bennetts, RN), HMS Bramham (Lt. E.F. Baines, DSO, RN), HMS Cowdray (Lt.Cdr. A.B. KMF A1 was destined for Algiers and KMF O1 was destined for Oran. Gibbs, DSO and Bar, RN). G.H. R. Horncastle, RN), HMS Westcott (Cdr. Hutton, DSO, RN), HMS Lookout (Lt.Cdr. Letitia, Someone did write an alternate history thread on if her sister ship hms eagle was still around in time for the falklands. E.N.V. Groups VI and VII were escorted by the light (AA) cruiser HMS Delhi (Capt. At one point the Sea Harriers managed to cover three CAP stations. Good points. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); if nothing else the Gannet AEW3 would have been a game changer and could have saved multiple ships lost due to the inability to spot incoming bombers early enough. S.E. At the heart of our naval prowess is an impressive fleet that includes destroyers, frigates and aircraft carriers. The Gannet's electronic eyes were also from a bygone age. 1982-may. Bulwark and either Tiger or Blake, not sure which, where up the trot at Guz. Argentineans was that we no longer wanted/had the will to use it another interesting was. 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